wow, interesting... i have to try that. never tried that feature of uvmapper. the reason i shy away from that sortof thing though is it requires the user to purchase/download another program. sigh, sometimes i have enough problems with tech support for simple things like MAT files and loading morph targets into poser... something like that might be too complicated for some people. though i thank god every day for MAT files... saves customers from having to worry about loading materials right, complex material settings, etc. same goes for MOR files. as for the .uvs being too complicated -- dont get me wrong.. i know that a lot of poser users are pretty knowledgeable. its just that when a large number of people buy something, then you try to keep everything as user-friendly as possible... otherwise you get swamped with dozens of emails every day asking you to walk them through it. and writing a comprehensive readme doesnt always help.. 90% of the time the answers to questions im asked are right there in the readme. and when you include ANOTHER program, a 3rd party program like UVMapper, then you end up being tech support for that program as well... and honestly i dont know an awful lot about UVMapper.. i only use it to UV Map my models and for its remove degenerate facets option. cheers, -gabriel