I use Bryce 4 & 5, `cause that's all I got for right now. Yes, Bryce is limited in modeling, but I have fun with it, and that's all I ever really wanted it for. I model more mechanical things since Bryce (off the bat) is not an organic modeler. that, and the fact I LOVE tecnical things. (mechanical devices, robots, etc.) I should start with the base of whatever I'm working on, but I don't. I start with whatever part excites me the most. Which usually leads to undo and major resizing, but my backwards brain will have it no other way. AgentSmith

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