I've got about 80 CD Roms and I've yet to have one give me a problem.. and I rarely even put them back in their sleeves Lipsinc will replace a CD if it should get damaged I can't blame companies for trying to take measures to hinder the thieves who otherwise will immediately not only rip them off.. but will also spread the stolen goods to as many people as they can. The dirtbag thieves are the ones to blame for any hassles that the honest people must suffer, not the software developers who are sick of being ripped off. Dillinger 3DThrills