Have you contacted klaus@bsmooth.de? I think he is just waiting for enough interest to get to it. We had a nice e-mail conversation, but left his expectations at this Spring. He also says the algorythms for this are common knowldge, so he may be interested in finishing ahead of plans. I offered him, money and was kinda scolded for it, though I got a nice little lesson on how to buy and bring about Bryce 6 for $3,000,000! MojoWorld is good friendly competition for Bryce, but after having a peek at the U.I. I believe they will need to work together before I get serious with it. = )