Thank you for that post about AVG!!! I had a trojan backdoor that that norton could not get rid of (or even find)...but this thing found it seconds after starting it up :) I knew the virus was there because it would open up an MIRC program every startup....but I did not have MIRC installed on this machine. But now...woohoo...it is finally gone :))))) Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you