tjohn, Jn the foreground there are two trees that have a "cut" in about the same place and whoever it was that commented probably just saw that similar cut in the same place on the two trees, and was too lazy to incestigate further. There's a lot of quaking aspen near June Lake one area where I did field studies. I remember A heart and DL + SH carved in one of them. THe trees look about right but these are taller than they were around June Lake. thanks for the snow sphere info. I'll check it out. - TJ