I'm not intending to be confrontational or entirely contradictory cybrbeast, but one of websters definitions of art is "skill that is attained by study, practice or observation", so technically (at least to me) it is all about art. So just as much as a skilled plumber is an artist at what he does so is an experinced flyfisher or master painter in whatever medium he chooses. I am certainly not blind to the modelers or detailists art either because I do quite a bit of it myself and am very attuned to the level of concentration and dedication it requires. So, it certainly wasn't my intention to even try and define art (as I pointed out) with the above post, it was more to examine the human factor in interpreting it, in whatever form or composition it may come in, within the context of this site, without excluding any factor, style or skill. Great point nu-be! Had not even considered the "breast factor" of Vicky in renders.. :)