Don't mention it redon634, it's nice to be able to contribute something to this community. I've learned so much since I discovered this site. There's so many great artists who go to a lot of trouble to share their knowledge. The thanks should really go to TRAVISB for writing this tut in the first place. I didn't have a clue about Lightwave before he wrote this, now I can produce basic models and I'm learning more all the time. Bovasso, well I can produce a PDF but I haven't got anywhere to host it. If anyone wants to put it on their site that would be great, not sure when I can get round to producing it though, bit busy at the moment! Baz