Nance - i was really hoping not to hear that about the animation rendering. But I have an idea, using another app, in conjunction, if it works it works, if not, back to the drawing board. No, in ref to the Abyss by SamTherapy. To discribe it - I'll try, I'm assuming now that the hilit was used on the exterior, but with a trans chrome finish, and heres where my discription gets weird, and the only way i can help you visulize it. Fill it with smoky colored jello with little lite shimmering sparkles thru-out and add animation to the interior and presto you've got preety close to what I mean. But you know what while thinking as writing this, dangerous combo, what if you did an abyss type posette,smoky chrome transparency, right? And had another similiar posette inside the original posette at 75% of the original size with again smoky chrome finish with the noise bum on the extior of the intior one and reverse the noise bum as in your figure 3 so it faces the intiorer on the extior posette? Did I say that right? you might have to do this at 25%, 50% and 75% of the original posette, keeping them all transparent and using the niose bum on intior extior maybe? I'd think you'd have to parent child all 4 posettes so they bend properly. I don't know just open thoughts about this. I know what I'm thinking but not how to put it in words.