Announcements like this, well ICT business is full of it (everbody partners with everybody :). It does not mean anything as long as no products appear... Funny thing is that if Clint's free LUUV plugin (find it in the truespace forum here) was not available, TS would not work with Poser at all at this time. When do the plugins for 3DsMax or LightWave come? The were part of PPP and I would love them for P5.