i'm down with this trav....alot of people don't realize that nothing in nature is TRUELY symetrical....alot of the times with just model half of a figure then BOOM mirror it...and call it finished...and while the end product might look great...it always seems un-natural somehow..part of that reason is symetry...i saw a program on TLC awhile ago that spoke about symetry (for some reason) and how we as humans tend to "gravitate" towards the more symetrical faces and think of them as beautiful...they showed a little example of then president clinton...and how his face was more symetrical than...who was it that ran against him?...get the point? ;)...but yeah...i'll join in this thread in a bit with a "symetrized" face or two...and what do ya mean by alter the symetry yourself?...position the "mirror" to where you think it looks good and makes a good face?