Heck, Baz, I'm still fiddling trying to get Anim8or and Carrara to do what you and Travis seemed to have whipped out so quickly. So I don't think you need to hang your head in shame! If you are interested in putting your tutorial on my web site, I'd be happy to HTML it for you. I would still credit it you as the author, of course. BTW, as my website is rather anemic, I'd be interested in hosting quadraped tutorials using other programs, if anyone is interested in writing them. Travis, same goes for your Lightwave tutorial, if you are interested. What I envision is a sort of matrix table like I did for the Poseable Gingerbread Man. Perhaps we could take the quadraped all the way to a poser figure (it would be really easy to adapt the Gingerbread Man blab I wrote to do this). Just some random early morning thoughts... it's so nice to see this forum get so active lately, it's inspiring me to attempt things far beyond my actual skill...