With all due respect, i do not think this model was ever intended to be a "do all, be all" model. With any luck and enough relentless persual, Daz hopefully will be considering a revamp of Michael into a Mike3 version. But for now, for those of us who want a slender, fine boned, sensitive male type humaniod, this will do the job quite nicely. After all, not all of us like that heavy bone, beefy look in males, and i am grateful for the options that i have seen so far. It's a good point you brought up tho- because i was wondering about collapsing the waist length myself- for dwarven, gnome type humaniods. Personally- i would like to see that option in an add on pack, just to help keep the initial cost of the model reasonable, and to allow time for further development. After all DAZ has a full plate, with trying to get the daz studio out, ( that is still being worked on?) continuously bringing us new models (free, brokered and those created inhouse). Just my 0.01 worth ( only 0.01 because i have been slacking this month ;D )