PheonixRising, funny you should mention that gift cert thing. lol My b-day is Dec 23rd and my mom asked me what I wanted for my birthday, I sent you a link to Daz3d.com lol Course that was before V3 so I didn't know what I wanted, so I just said "gift certificate mom" lol. Can't wait ... course if she doesn't get me one now Im gonna be miffed. lol Gina