Ha ! that's ok Jack_ I think we Brits sometimes underestimate how difficult it is for you folks across the pond (big assumption here!) to catch our tone. Happens the other way too! I'm with you on the pants on dogs but gotta support Mosca here on the table legs_no territorial issues there I think. You've guessed I can't get on to that DAZ server_ I hope they will allow me to extend the 48h download window.