'Any number that's NOT 1 is 4' I meant, of course, Any number that's NOT 0 is 4. The semi-official unpublished Curious Labs in-house CR2 documentation is part of the Poser 5 manual, which is available from CL online (Page 352, Part 11, Appendix B). Or, if anyone has problems with the big d/l, I have Anthony's doc on disk. It's 304kb. (And he's no longer with CL, at least full-time - he's off writing sci-fi books). ockham said, 'In Poser 4.0.3, if I delete a part's Weld command, something does its toilet somewhere unwelcome and Poser refuses to accept morph targets for that part even if its number of vertexes is correct.' Is that with organic or non-organic figures, ockham? I've deleted all the weld statements in all the furniture figures I've made with no problems whatsoever. Along with the twisties, et al, In fact, I do everything dodger mentioned in post #12, (apart from removing the extra rot and trans dials - I figure some idiot somewhere will want to lean a door up against it's frame or something, so I just set zero limits on the rots). Anyway, I have morphs coming out my figures' ears, and never had a problem yet. mac