hisminsky: "How many more people are going to be able to afford MORE models and MORE clothes again and again as each new version of Vicky is released?" ever less. as long as there's isn't a new clothing/conforming system that works independently of model/cloth type. maybe i'm projecting my hopes herein but i believe that i read between anton's lines something about that in their new software. AND DON'T ASK FOR LINK!!!! ;)