It gets close sometimes, the estimated time to remember is the very first estimate you get after the first render pass. `Course if you have any good amount of glass in your scene, forget it, it almost always wrong, just like ya said. Sounds silly, but...If I'm going to render a complex scene that is for example 800x600, I'll change the document size onscreen to 200x150 and render that. Whatever time that takes will be 16 times faster than what it would take at 800x600. So, if it took 30 mintues, I'll know that the 800x600 render will take 8 hours. *(since you would have to tile a 200x150 image 16 times to cover an 800x600 space). Like I said, maybe silly, but it's fairly accurate. AgentSmith

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