questions and additional comments added at commune..lol point daz to the idea here/there and have them do it or strip the cr2 until there is no copywritten material in it and send it to me and I'll do it myself. Don't want any copyright issue stuff tho. anyhow, then the cr2 can be edited to remove all unnecessary info that keep the relevant things (body part name, joint setup info) and just apply that to the clothes before conforming. blammo...one small file fixes almost all v3 issues with v2 clothes. BT