lynde, There was never an argument to begin with, was there? Just differing POVs and ways of seeing/reading things. Written communication is one of the hardest mediums to get your point across. Sometimes it takes a lot of time and misunderstandings before the true intent is meted out. --- My take on the "AoY poll/contest" is that it was started publicly and should have ended publicly - mistake or not. Removing the poll/contest has obviously caused more harm than good. If the mods/admins vote on which artists are included in the AOY, and Legume was one, then they should be willing to accept the possibility that Legume would have a 1/12 chance of winning; regardless of any publicity/campaigning, etc. The fact that it was publicly available and now it is not, due to a policy change that was never made public, TTBOMK, reeks the same malodorous scent as many decisions this past year. Hopefully, the new year will bring more "enlightenment" to everyone.