I just sent the actual vicky 3 joint pose file to schlabber..he will have to test it to see that it does indeed work to change v2 joints to v3. I made a program that autostrips a cr2 for this purpose... so it did most of the work. the poser file works on posette body parts so it should work on vicky clothing with standard body part names. after applying the pose to the clothes, you'd just need to conform them..and possible rescale them in places that arent the same dimensions..but it should work I think. at the very least, I did prove that you can make the joints change via a pose file. I guess we all wait on schlabber now to test it and then get back with a report :) BT