There is also Poser 4 with the ProPack add-on. It comes with a plugin for Lightwave, Max 4, and Cinema 4D. If I were to go for the best quality for the least amount of money I would get Poser4, ProPack and Cinema 4D. As Maestraorion mentioned, Vue d'Esprit and the plugin is cool too. I am very impessed with the look of the rendering of Vue. Seams less candy-ish or plastic looking than Bryce but that's just my preferance. Cheers, LawnDart