there has still been not reference to anyone's intelligence or ability to make further decisions In my business, we call that time stepping. I don't really care if you like Legume or not. That's not the point. What you wrote is "sometimes the smartest people make stupid decisions". Your words, ma'am. And now you reiterate it by saying that in your opinion making Leggie AOY would be stupid. If that's not making a judgment call on people's ability to make a decision, I don't know what is. And it's not reading a thing into your posts. It's your own words. So if you mean something else, you'd better get started thinking of a new approach, because this one just ain't running anywhere.