yeah seven the main problem is that there is no bryce file format decoder thingy. It's never been cracked. I'm sure an application would have been developed already if we new the structure of a bryce file. There are two people I know that might be of help with this. The first is wolfie, who was trying to do something like this a few years ago. wolfie@wolfiesden.com Also ken musgrave(doc mojo) may be of some help, but i don't know how to go about contacting him. As for corel, they have been stingy with the whole issue. Most emails are never returned, and i don;t think they've ever given it up to anyone before. To bad it still wasn;t part of metacreations.