the way cool of this idea is to would can take the expression face in "automatic mode" (with tracking 2D) from dates about markers position (face markers pose) from the library to you will can developed then ... Visualmarkerface would work with only map of markers in link with your personal morphtargets and labial morphs ! lipsinc dont take the expression from the actor but create only lipsinc from audio .. visualmarkerface would can make it take the expression face and labial from a 640x480 quicktime or avi source ! the position setup of the markers would be use for another sequences .. developed so your personal library expression face ;-) andygraph