yep - that's why I gas up a week in advance (I usually take two weeks to burn a tank of gas in my Jeep Wrangl., since I don't drive all that much; kind of a side benefit of having a 20-gallon gas tank. (haven't the slightest idea how many liters that comes to... I'd assume it would be a big number.) Renderosity would never become a pay site, mainly because everyone (and I mean literally everyone) would pack up and leave all at once. Also, I can guarantee that Free Stuff would dry up instantly - the freebie contributors pay for their own bandwidth, and would prolly be more than a little miffed at having to pay even more cash beyond the bandwidth bills for the 'privilege' of posting their freebies here. Renderosity makes their money from sales in the Marketplace (40-50% cut of all sales), and through banner ads paid for from outside parties. They gain potential customers through three big, fat draws: Galleries, Free Stuff, and the Forums, in that order. The nanosecond they tamper with that, they'd lose the biggest incentive(s) for folks to stop by. Now if a site like Renderotica were to charge a modest amount of money for, say, gallery access (unless they actually contribute to it and become exempt), folks would likely pay up. ;) /P