Poser 4 reads 3DMF files. Well it does in the MAC version. Does it not in the PC version? Anyway the explorer program is ok, unless they've improved it lately. I had bad luck with that one. A program 3DWin/3DWinOGL was much more reliable for me. http://www.stmuc.com/thbaier/ But DOES NOT do 3DMF. Hmm go figure. Maybe we should get some people to set up a format conversion program. I myself can't read any MAX files. James