Jack, while I don't disagree with your issues I should make one distiction which I think you overlooked in my original post. This idea was in addition to the propsed idea of tracking the time one spends at the site...not in place of it....and there is no gaurantee that the admins will even consider anything we are suggesting here so we might as well offer the most complete suggestion of all(assuming that everyone agrees, this is of course up to everyone). And I'm aware it would take alot of work and that the staff already works hard...I am a web developer myself and am aware of what would be involved in a project such as this one..:) Melissa