I think the approach is going to require a different approach, though I am very sure that there is support for non-DAZ morphs built into the newest vicky. I am guessing that an empty vicky will require something to be injected (using the same channel as you are using for your morph) I suspect that you can do the injection directly, but it will require studying the stuff already present for vicky. Perhaps a quick test would be to use a pre-existing DAZ channel (name). Load the original (allowing whatever is necessary for the injection to take place) and then use your own. If that works, just study how they did their injector to make yours an injectible quantity. Also, there has been mention (from Dan Farr, I believe) of 2 different channel schemes: Daz, and community (bearing CD and CC in the channel names, respectively) The idea is, if you want to avoid trampling over DAZ morphs, or having DAZ morphs trampling over yours, use the community dials (since DAZ will never use those names in anything they distribute) That is just a guess. I'm still trying to get ahold the volume of morphs already present (if you don't own any of the morph kits, I'm sure someone will post a tutorial soon) I would be happy to try it, myself, but I will be leaving in a half hour to do X-Mas stuff, and won't return before late this evening. Eric