I think DAZ's POV was that a 120 Mb vicki was a killer, not only to use, but also to download, especially if you have dial-up. That's also why they split her into packages. I can appreciate this because I d/ld vicki/head MTs/body MTs/tex maps/fashion maps/poses in 2 6 hour sessions over 2 nights. Imagine the PITA if she'd all been in one pack! But the main point is the usage. I wouldn't want a 120 meg figure either in my library or in my document window. The first thing I'd be doing is pitching out all the morphs I wouldn't use. And what would I do if I thought I might want them in a year's time? Save them to another figure with Morph Manager? Hey... in the end, injection SAVES time. mac