Yep you said it. "Wrong is wrong is wrong, no matter how it's spinned" Wouldn't you have pulled the contest if you were running it and spotted some voting irregularities. Campaining for aoy is cheating and I would have stopped it right away. The only thing I would have done different was I would have stated exactly why the contest was stopped. I doubt the ever meant for it to be a politcal contest. I didn't vote and don't really care who wins. I've enjoyed the art from all the candidates. It's not that I just don't care, I do. I help when I can.I just don't like how contests degenrate into such as this and don't even try to lay it all on the admins, I would have stopped it too because of voting irregularities. That's why I don't partisipate in contests or the enevitable flame wars that generate. Well I did get suckered into this one didn't I ;o) I'm not telling anybody to leave. But on the other hand why hang out where your uncomfortable. But definitely don't let anything I say infuence you in any way. I'm just voicing my opinion on this matter. "BTW, this is not an "invitation only" site, which would qualify it as private, much like a country club. It is open to anyone, no matter what their qualifications are. " I do believe your wrong here. At least I don't have any stock in the company. So It's not my site. I guess the owners are the people that do have stock. Add if they don't want me here I could be banned for life. Sounds pretty much like a private site to me. I wish everybody a peaceful solution to this but I'm bowing out because I have no influence on anything that happens in this situation.