"So... I'M responsible for the AOY poll being pulled?..." Did I say that? No, I didn't. I've been reading the thread with ideas on how to fix things. There have been some good suggestions there, but as has been pointed out by others they all have problems. Weeding out clones isn't as straightforward as just matching IP addresses. If it was, you can bet it would have been done already, and we wouldn't be in this pickle. I don't know how it works in the US, but over here in the UK it would be a simple matter for me to sign up with 10 or 20 dialup ISP's. That would get me 20 different IP addresses right off, and if you assume that they're using dynamic addressing that's potentially 20 clones PER DAY that I could create and vote with. Not to mention the 200+ machines I manage at work, each with their own static IP. So maybe it's not brain surgery to come up with an answer, but it's a hell of a lot harder than just adding a few lines of code. On to euphemisms. Management aren't simply picking a winner and telling us who it is. There is still a vote going on, though lamentably it's not open to the whole membership at the moment. Each admin and mod has one vote, and the nominee with the greatest number of votes will be the winner. This is what I was referring to when I originally said "The impression you give is that you think we're all just looking at the balance sheet or thinking about who pissed us off this year. You are very wrong if you think that's how it is." Meaning that we place a vote based on the work of the artist, not on how much money they brought in to the MP or who they annoyed in the past. And it's also not about not wanting people to bitch. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that after an explanation and an apology that people should stop trying to make a situation worse by trying to read more into it than there really is.