"And that's all I have to say to you--you've contributed nothing to this thread, as far as I can see, beyond a lot of rambling misapprehension and a few interesting adventures in grammar. If you don't think this issue is important, butt out and let the grownups sort it out." I do think this issue is very important because I happen to like the art here and I would hate to see the folks that run this place get fed up running this place because folks like you give them such a hard time when they happen to maybe muck up and continue to give them an even harder time even after they acknowledge this and say sorry, we know we messed up. I kind of resent the fact you suggest I contribute nothing. I suppose you are contributing lots and lots with your endless whimpering about this contest and how bad the folks that run this place are? I guess that's really beneficial to all here and very inspirational to all the artists here? I do hope I am wrong, I get the impression this place is a lot more than just about guilt trips, blaming and neverending complaining about the same things, in fact I have seen that it is a lot more, I wish you would too. As for being grownups, my kids even know when to stop making a fuss and stop slurring each other, you seem to still keep going and I am sure you will still be going till next week and the week after. I think this entire place is an adventure in grammer of a sorts because these discussion boards seem so dependant on dueling with words and who has the best and loudest line for the moment. I suppose in that aspect, you win Mosca, although what good that does all these artsists, I haven't a clue. I just hope it doesn't stop them from creating anytime soon.