I don't know you, Spiritbro77 any more than I know Legume or Mosca. Seen them around the forums a few times thats it, Im pissed cause my opinion doesnt count for shit here anymore than anyone else that may be 'green' and the rules are changed around here midstream by the members. People are spat on for their opinions. The staff here are less respected for what they do or say than a bunch of sniveling, slurping, dirty morons in a soup kitchen. Fuck it, if you guys think its ok that all this is going on then woo hoo things are just great here. But when you all hang yourselves dont expect anyone to give a shit. You may all be to busy enjoying how terrific everything isn't when you see a "site not found" at the top of your browser. Wouldn't want to rock the boat of dissention mongers would we? You know, I can be just as fond of playing with sarcasm as the next person, and I also think it works BOTH ways. Perhaps we should just appeal to the staff to allow this place to actually BE a free for all and pass out guns, ammo and knives and maybe even bazooka's at the entranceway and let the membership and staff go at it?? Better yet, let's lynchmob the staff and scramble the prizes and take over the joint and ransack the entire marketplace and make the gallery and discussion boards a free for all!! I would actually be inclined to enjoy such a fortune of caustic, catastrophic events a place such as this would endure in a scenario like this, the bloodshed and waste would be a tale to be told for countless ages online, but at what kind of cost? How long has this huge place been here and taken to grow to such gigantic proportions? I have also heard from various sorts that what I have just proposed sarcastically above has pretty well happened here before anyways; it was all a part of what indeed has made this place so...BIG...and also prosperous and precious in many ways. Do we go backwards now and relive that enactment and see if we can do this all again? I would hope this place has learned from past and gone forward enough to somehow deal with this more professionally and diplomatically as a result of past scrambled charging among the ruins. I think that if anything, the staff here may be wanting to make certain that all the things here that have been "gained" through past hardships, are maintained and even enhanced to grow forward towards a more peaceful and professional outlook instead of backwards to where it seems no one really respected anyone unless they had a bigger gun or grenade up their nose instead of a flowing brush and creative hand. I can comprehend the value of a free for all and more "space" in a place that may be a lot smaller and where everyone really kind of knows one another. I have seen that format work most efficiently in such places because then the members really do have a way of taking care of themselves and any rigamortus that may offer themselves into that kind of scenario is deadmeat on their own accord. It is all about teamwork and friendship and close bonding and actually really "caring" about one another and coming together time and time again and sharing that same space and "knowing" each others boundaries and respecting the value of one another both individually and as a whole. That works if you have the right people and the right place, and I think although there are many, many people here just like this, there are also many not like this; this place is just too BIG for it to work this way here. Ironically I do think the staff here do want this kind of flavor here, but because it is so darn huge, it needs policing and policing can be hard and direct and cold and it can get in the way and be looked at the wrong way especially in an emotionally charged place like this where you get folks from both sides of the coin happening too often and out of control too easily. Many may come here for family reasons, many others may come here just to be a pain in the ass and many others may be here just to sell or profit, and yet many others just to buy stuff and others, just to post a show and say "look at me!" Then you get folks that are like me that just come to look at pretty pictures and suddenly stumble in one day to see what else is here. Now, I may well have easily crossed the wrong person here myself if I was that way and gotten myself banned or cast out quite easily too, it sometimes doesn't take much even in the real world to get stopped by a cop. I have seen people get stopped by police and begin to give them an earful midstream of getting a ticket which resulted in another ticket and eventually even a pair of handcuffs and a visit to the station because they could not shut up! Maybe the person being fined had a point about being picked on while ten other folks got away speeding, or how she saw the officer looking up her skirt or maybe the officer was being unfair somehow or not within the rights of the law; but was she making this point the right way at the right time and is there not a place better to do this and a better way than to risk losing that credibility for the sake of the moment? And what if the officer was right and the person fined was just causing grief and spite for getting caught? I think once a place gets THIS big as I see this place being, it becomes like real world economics and requires laws and a specific order or it does stand to lose more than it can possibly gain from a free for all place where the membership should be trusted to sort out the mess in whatever way they want. Just like a real world scenario I don't think the amount of members and staff here can really be expected to have this place with no rules and conduct and responsibility because in such a vast place there is just far too much heresay and variance of circumstance, nevermind emotions aplenty. I do wonder though, if a place such as this, that has needed to "enforce" policing of sorts to keep the place from in fact falling apart from so many mindsets and diversities, whether they shouldn't really consider having some kind of jury system?? What I mean is, hearing how folks are banned and seeing how things can get out of hand so easily and I am sure just as members can be unforgiving, so can staff at times, the emotions DO run high here bigtime, perhaps the staff here take on too much responsibility to themselves, and thus pay the price of disrespect at times because members scream unfair and shady! Maybe in some cases they should consider appointing a cast of members, some known, some unknown, perhaps picked randomly, before a judgement like a banning is decided with the final decision made by the staff of course. It "would" make members here more close to the various issues at hand and it would also give the vast membership here more responsibilty for their own actions too. This could also work with contests if done with respect to "both" sides here. I think "respect" is what it's all about here. I see that being an issue more and more. I think ultimately what IS most important is that the site is respectful in what it is trying to portray to the internet masses, and I think both the staff and members know this and want this very much but none of them want to give up any of their own respect to make this happen. Maybe this place needs a good brainstorming session rather than so many emotional outbursts upon the boards.