I'll second you on that PdxJims, V3 has some pretty good Mlae morphs but the textures kill it. It is all your fault as it is, that here I am with yet another Vicky. I bearly use v's 1 an 2 but you did some great stuff with her as a male. So hopfully some on will take up the chalange or I will be forced to carve up some of my mike textures and try myself and we all know how bloody that will be.