I don't think Vue 4 is slow at all - I've been working in Poser 5 a lot recently (a really great program - I'm not trying to knock it here), and today worked in Vue. Although tracking and refresh rates became a little slow,it renders so quickly even when over a million polys. What a nice change. I love Poser, but speed is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of moving around or rendering in it, particularly when the poly count gets high! If you want to appreciate Vue more spend a little time in Poser. Hope Vue 5 can import Poser 5 hair, then I'll be really happy!