Ya I hear ya. Thing is if you get really complex things in vue it crawls even in wire frame mode. Actually I very rarly have that problem becuase I keep things on hidden layers. Thing is it's hard to build meshes up when you can see right threw them and the open gl has so many minuses for me that I still use wire frame mode. Like I'm pretty sure Bryce could not open this mesh though I never tried. I found most programs cannot open this file. It's just too complex. A million polys in Vue is just barly scratching the surface and that is to it's credit for sure. That chandelere that Alexssander did shows the power of Vue. Put's almost all programs to shame really. Now if we can just get that desktop working area fixed.