I already know that. This mesh here is a prime example. It's only 176 kb in the original and 250 megs in Vue. Now that nothing, some of the pieces I converted to other formats to try to chop the polys are extreme. Vue's is small. one piece dxf format from obj 4 megs to dxf grew to 89 meg. Like I don't understand where the file size is coming from. Obj saved as object does the same thing though it grows to huge sizes. Thing is at least vue can open the file most programs I got here can't even open the pieces. The object file cheats in a way anyway they make a part then just keep placing it till they are all there. It's a good system really. Vue needs a system to save meshes in a more simple format. There is no reason this file should grow so big. It's just a text file. It's not mapped even when saved from vue. They is no reason why it should be that big. This is not a good mesh though to use cause it's just to many parts. If I could find a program to merge the parts you could probibly get it down to a 100 or so k. Primitives are the best for sure they're simple. What I'm talking about though is the actuall open gl part of vue. It has no use for me. There could have been simpilar, easier, faster, viewing options then going to open gl. Is there any program out there that managed to get open gl to work well? If Z Brush uses it they got figured out but they cheat in a way and it's different kind of program so they have a advantage of a 2d workspace under the 3d one so it's really fast. Only one thing at a time is in 3d other wise it's drawn on the 2d screen part till you select it agian. Thing is though just solid drawing would be better than open gl as it's working in Vue right now. I realize though it works just fine if you keep it simple. Solid drawing would work well both ways. Even tough using Vue primitives if you go crazy Open gl will die there too. Like it just takes forever to update. I'm just saying I'd rather have had solid drawing then open gl. Give me any computer, any program and I can kill it, that's not a problem.