Ah..cool.thanks Lorraine..I'll give that a shot tonight/tomos..see what I can come up with..I see what you mean now about cloning patches..with a bit more work, it would look very realistic So I guess I do it the way I did before, the just keep building up the layers and working on them with smudge/clone etc Yeah, I got a tablet for x-mas..noticed the difference right away..never go back to mouse squeak squeak..and I love the little freckles you put on her face..nice lil touch :D