LadySilverMage, (and I still do like your name), it is this Ironbear above that introduced me to "other art sites" which compelled me to "look around." I am not an idiot and I can manipulate the internet well enough to find my way around and I do enjoy the passion of reading the forums as much as I do looking at the various galleries. One of the reasons I began posting here is because I developed a sincere interest in becoming more involved in the community instead of just looking around. Unfortunatly I don't have much to offer other than writing and giving opinions because I am not an artist. After reading a lot around here I felt it was safe to participate even without having to post artwork. Yes, I have looked at everything available to me historically here, especially since I seem to have gotten myself into this contraversy here where some folks seem to believe I am here as some strange catch of the day and therefore a roasting we will go. I began looking at the history of this place long before I decided to state my opinion in the Copyright forum here. I would not just scramble myself into such a heated debate without at least knowing what some of the stuff here is about, and it is nice to know who these various members are. I also like to follow certain members here historically since I fancy their artistic talents and what they offer in a place like this and what they are all about. Mind you, time restraints and fragmentation does create limitations but I haven't just started doing this yesterday, I have been here long enough to know my way around. My own words should be proof of that, but I cannot understand why this makes me "suspicious" other than some of you almost hoping I am someone else for entertainment value, probably because I sound like someone else. Mongo, this is directed at you. Please do not feel any lesser or feel I am flaming you in any way because I say this, that is not my intention. You have stated that you are a clone person and that you felt the need to do this to protect that real side of you that participates upon this art forum so that you can give opinions and be on the discussion boards without fear of retaliation or finger pointing or this interfering with your real person format here. I find it very sad that you have to do this Mongo. You, and I am sure others like you obviously feel this place very worthwhile to your needs and as well you bring value to this Art Site in many ways and it to you, yet, you find it very difficult, almost impossible to be "yourself" here because you believe you cannot be both things at once. It should not have to be this way. But I can understand, especially when stuff like this happens. I get the feeling people here are ready to string me up here just for having a voice and wishing to be a part of the community only because I come into this with a varying opinion and a suspicious way of portraying myself. LadySilverMage I have nothing against Mosca, I don't even know Mosca. I would hope you realize that any person coming to this forum even today for the first time would realize Mosca is a very signifigant person here with all the posts thrown throughout this forum by Mosca. So is it wrong to direct opinion on such a loud person here? I seem to have stepped on several toes here unwillingly, but nevertheless, I have already been told this is a bad start on my part. Again I stress, if this is how some of you folks deal with newer unknown members that wish to participate here but may be different or too outspoken, then perhaps it is understandable that this site management has its' hands full. No wonder they make mistakes and no wonder they are not quick to bother replying. Their words might only be dissected and thrown into their faces too. Good Sunday