To you guys for spending soooo much time trying to help ! I'll give it a try tomorrow (errrr, today, grin). You see, Optical, I skipped the coffee and cookies and parented myself to beer. And bwldrd, I'll try that too, but not sure how/where you created l/r breast. You see, I'm kinda stupid. Just one of those guys who's used to simple things. PS: Maybe DAZ will create matching clothing items for all that appear in the Platinum club for V3...then I can skip beer and headaches and spend $1.99 for each (assuming I wouldn't need to repurchase the additional texture packs). Hint, Hint, DAZ (smile)