quixote - Thank you very much! I see where the where an artist needs to "Write with Light." Every work needs to have its own character. I'm glad you're keeping tabs on my attempts to suppliment this belief with mathmatical basis'! FireHorse - That's really the half of choice here, but truthfully I'm not really sure where that is. I'd always thought the front of the Ligth Controls(0,0,0) was the front of the scene. But recently, while working at acquiring Set Rotation Formulae/Pythons, I've come to relaize that beliefe is off some, but I'm still not sure how this is. As I said to quixote I think Global Illumination makes for a wonderfull base. This way you really get some thing to start each scene off with! Then if we can get you rotating/coloring/dimming the set(s), with Pythons, we will have definatley accelerated the scene creation process! Unless your working with only 1 or 2...lights, for a very unique effect, I think your always want to see as much of the surface of each of you models as possible. THis is where Global Illumination is paramount. The differance between them being how much tweaking you a prepared to perform for the final render. Sometimes, for quick renders, the 4 sided model will blanket the surface smoothly/evenly enough. For a smoother and more consistant cover of a models surface you would want to use a set with more sources though. So there is room for expirimention from right within the mathmatical realm of the Global Sets via the relationship between intensity and source number! Well it happened folks. After installinf Win2KPro IIS, and not any patches or Virie protection, and even without having hosted a site yet, the Code Red Nimda disease took the life of my PC! I backed up as much as I could before I needed to FDISK and reformat my HD. Unfortunetly, not all of my Libraries made it to CD-R. I though I had backed up my lights sets, but this was not the case. I've contacted ockham about replacing some of what he has copies of, but I'm sure all of my die sets were lost. I'm going to start back up again tonight, but it might be a week, or so, before I post with any new die sets... = )