I don't think anybody should be bashing Jack over this. I think he's showing remarkable restraint. I don't have poser 5 and won't get it( can't export the hair or cloth ) the only reason I would have even considered it. That said... You have to kidding me folks. If I had bought this and it didn't work after this long( and I couldn't get my money back) you would need a striaghjacket to restrain me. I for one refuse to be treated like a beta test monkey. If I want to beta test something I'll sign up for it. A program as popular as poser could have had an endless supply of people willing to test this for free. Wouldn't have cost them a dime( well a few free copies BFD ). They would have had a wider hardware base to test on. Bad move all around on CL's part and I fear they will pay for it My 1 cent hey I'm overdrawn this month