Sleep does such horrible things for my sanity level... A couple points of clarification: I was not Flaming. Iwas pointing out the continued futility of whining about the darn thing not working and this company -- which is absolutely no different from 80% of the companies in any industry in the world (what, they're special just 'cause they make Poser?) -- going off and making a new product (which likely was developed simultaneously with P5, if not earlier than that). It is the whining that must needs cease. Jack has always put up thoughtful posts, and tries hard (though not without succumbing on occasion) to avoid sinking to name calling (stop laughing, now -- he does try. You guys try to do that if you're so perfect...). My issue is with the "yeah, me too!" posts which generally indicate little more than reading and jumping in. As for standing up to Jack, there is no such thing. Besides, he's likely taller than I am and I sit down to type. The situation is simple: if you think that you have been screwed over by Curious Labs, the tiny division of a tiny company that doesn't even really exist in the US, then make that known by exercising your right as a consumer to force them to fix what they claim is a functional product. Yes, that will cost money to do. Money that if you win, will be repaid to you. Yes, it will actually require effort on your part above and beyond sitting on your derriere and tip tapping out your latest whine without wisdom. oh me, oh my -- what is that I spy? Come on, folks. I would be willing to wager a class action could be had here (though being broke, t'would have to be something less than cash). IF you are to comment, put thought into it. If you do not know, then educate yourself first. Jack has, despite being something of a joke to many, and continues to do so. Lastly, there is one minor thing I should note -- I lack even the reasonable facsimile for sanity. Sticks and stones might break my bones, but words echo in my head eternally....

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)