i like the idea of the rosy awards. and, i think we should address the issue of clone accounts in voting...and, having offsite groups who really don't participate here, voting. Nowadays to be an artist in 3D, one is expected to be a set designer, fashion consultant, stunt coordinator, doctor (for the anatomy), mechanical engineer, landscaping wizard, etc, etc, etc. Most people aren't that, or like tuttle said, don't have the time or the resources to be that. now, this statement, i don't know about. there are a number of free modelling programs...amapi 4.15 was the first one that actually "clicked" with me. and, i think, all who post to the poser gallery have photoshop/psp/and, or photoimpact. it is so much fun to make that first texture, that's "yours". and, i don't mean with an eye on the marketplace. just with an eye on stating who you are...and what you like. it doesn't take alot of resources to create your own stuff from scratch. it takes time, yes....and, devotion, yes, yes, yes. but there are so many folks who have the time to do their 3 render quota to gallery, constructed from stuff that others...who may only post to gallery a time or two in a year....that 3 render a day time could be used to further one's knowledge. i'd sure rather spend my time learning a new skill, than using it making vicki in temple renders. in my opinion...neither legume, nor, toxic angel deserves the aoy award. they both have merely done what has been done many times before. perhaps, a bit better than all the others in the poser gallery who post such similar things...but...there is a phrase, here....and, my english is quitting on me. must've been that second beer. and, what about an award for folks like codetwister...the tailor....kozaburo, wonderful free hair models, schlabber with his poses, serge with his dresses....ecstasy, with her gorgeous freestuff textures? maybe this aoy has been over done, and, should start fresh as a new yearly recognition to those who have really CONTRIBUTED to the poser community. but, no...it boils down to "clone" accounts, and friends stuffing ballots. what a comment on our society. trying to sneak through on the finish line...without trying to "grow", as an artist kind of, in my book, discredits one as an artist. art is about growth. sure, you can make some money with it. but, you can make some money panhandlling, as well. art, to me, is being able to say..."look...i made this. i love it (today). tomorrow, i may learn some new stuff and kind of hate it." renderosity is supposed to be "all about the art"...but, i don't see any changes to that effect. this is all very shoddy and sad.