They are yelling at Jack to take the focus off his original point: Poser 5 is a bad program and CL isn't going to fix it. It's a tactic used often by defenders of the guilty. Remember the OJ trial? He was innocent of the crime because Ferman used the 'n' word. See, it works! It's used a lot in criminal trials and politics. And the CL Loyal have been using it since P5's release. BTW, why should CL fix 5? They never fixed 4 and everyone eventually fell silent. And with all the defenders working so feverishly to slam people like Jack, the compliance will come even faster. FYI: I was one of the first "whiners" as we were called. I just quit because I got tired of arguing with a brick wall. Bravo, Jack! Keep it up. (But where were you the first month?! We coulda used some more help)