Laurie A..the mor files do definately work in pure Poser 4, that's what I use and I have April and she works great! I'm still not quite understanding what I have to do in order to make and save characters the way I used to with Vic2 (I have lots of my own characters that I use in my artwork) But I'm going to go play with her for a bit and see if I can get my brain to wrap around what everyone is saying. Obviously it's not near as easy and convenient as it is with V2....some things I wish they would have left alone...sigh..... But I love V3 she's a nice mesh .... Pendy