Ahhhh the plot thickens!!! I just went to the site and d'loaded BOTH the windows.zip and the Mac.sit file for this house and NEITHER work on my Macintosh. (in theory the Mac os should see a win.3dmf file as readable). The internal QD player in Mac OS 8.6 doesn't see either the "native" mac 3dmf file nor the windows 3dmf file as anything valid to display. I don't thik these files will work on either platform without the Design Workshop player. Poser freaks out on the Mac version of the file complaining that the geometry is missing. So it may not be the format that is causing the problem but the Bozos that created it. Whoa-Ho! So whats with this design workshop stuff anywho? jje