V3 is a nice change from Mike, but she's definitly NOT a really male character. Better than Don and the Dork, but as a man, not really as good as Mike 2. V3 needs a bit of tweeking to get it to look more masculine. The muscle controls don't work the way they should for a man. Close, but no cigar (pun intended). I like V3 because of the variation from Mike, and for all the morphs. However, Mike is still the model of choice for a really masculine man. I think V3 bodes very well for M3. If he has the same technology and mapping capabilities, he's going to be magnificent. There is a project somewhere to create a high poly single character on the scale of Mike and Vicky. I beleve it's a volunteer project (like Unix), where a number of people are working on the mesh design and morphs. I've lost the link to it though. Anyone know of it?