Also you might want to try poserfashion website, there is great tutorials over there as well as PhilC's great tutorials. Some outfits do better if you drape them and others if you don't. I don't believe I have ever used "drape" with Poserfashions outfits. I am using a weak computer with Windows ME. The only time I have a long wait is when I am doing an animation over 50 frames. Try Judy with one of Poserfashions dresses for Judy and you will get the feel of the cloth room. Bill